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PostSubject: Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy   Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy Icon_minitimeTue Oct 26, 2010 2:18 am

This person is circulating throughout the community posing as a rescue. She is contacting members and vendors, asking for donations. She has used various approach tactics to get people to send her glider products..

Here is an email from her that she sent to me. This is just one of her ever-changing stories but the basic premise that she is going by is that she has fallen on hard times and needs donations.


On Oct 26, 2010, at 2:38 AM, Dawn <dhall1965@gmail.com> wrote:

I just started a Sugar Glider Rescue. My husband got laid off and money is getting low. Last week my dryer broke down and basicly melted all my cage sets. I cant afford to buy any at this time cold you tell me how to make them. I cant sew but I will try. Or if you could donate some to me. I would pay you back b  Febuary.  PLEASE could you please help out. Dawn




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Just so our members know, this email Davie got is NOT the first. This is just one in a long line of emails with excuses of gliders dumped at her house, medical bills for the gliders that took all the money she needed for pouches and toys, etc, etc, etc.

When questioned on Glider Gossip, she refused to answer questions or to provide pictures of any gliders at all.

The list goes on and on. I'm sure some of our other members will add their experiences to this thread. Definitely worth being wary of.
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PostSubject: Re: Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy   Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy Icon_minitimeTue Oct 26, 2010 10:53 am

I will add my email from her later.

Kryskritters was also contacted a couple of months ago.
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PostSubject: Re: Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy   Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy Icon_minitimeTue Oct 26, 2010 11:15 am

Oh jees, don't these people realize this community is not as crazy as we look. Leave the scams and crappola at the door so the gliders that really need help can get it.
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PostSubject: Re: Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy   Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy Icon_minitimeTue Oct 26, 2010 5:31 pm

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Hello, I am writing you this letter of hope. My name is Dawn Hall. I dont have a Rescue that is registered or has a Tax ID. I run Fuzzbutts Forever out of my home. Fuzzbutts Forever is a Sugar Glider Rescue. My home has become a refuge for many of Sugar Gliders. I have a very high Adoption and Rehoming Rate. Most of my Rescues come from uneducated owners that had no idea what they were getting. I currently have Seven(7) cages of Gliders. 5 of which are paralyzed due to lack of vitamins and proper diet. Well my husband has lost his job and my savings are almost gone. There are a few things We desperatly need. Food and the Come Along Carrier and cages small . These carriers are used to pick up and get the Sugar Gliders to my home.Toys are also needed. They also are used to transport to the Vet. These are really needed. 3 or 4 would be great. I know you cant write this off as a tax write-off but the good you would be doing is worth more than that can be. PLEASE I;m not asking for myself but for my Fuzzbutts. I am all they have and they deserve this. I do my best and give my all to these babys untill I can get them into there forever homes. PLEASE.......PLEASE for THEM. Thank You for your time. DAWN HALL
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Chattrbabe also posted on LGG that she was contacted by Dawn Hall with requests for donations.
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PostSubject: Re: Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy   Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy Icon_minitimeTue Oct 26, 2010 8:13 pm

WOW just WOW.

The thing is what she is doing is HURTING gliders. When givers can no longer trust the true rescues pay the price. I am send a virtual slap to Dawn. (WHACK)
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PostSubject: Re: Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy   Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy Icon_minitimeWed Oct 27, 2010 7:14 am

Smack her a couple times for me too!
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PostSubject: Re: Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy   Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy Icon_minitimeWed Oct 27, 2010 8:08 am

I am almost sure this person does not even have gliders! It may not even be a woman or not even in this country. In fact I would put good money on it!
I have seen this scam (with gliders and other animals) pulled off in several ways other than this. There was one just recently on Craigs list involving glider adoption and shipping.
It is technically what you would consider a "Nigerian 411 scam"...you know like the ones you get saying you won the UK lottery or some guy needs you to help him get money out of some bank account in Rawanda! The writing style just REEKS of it. Short sentences, poor English and about a million other "tip-offs" I can see.
I get and see a zillion of these a day. I must get about 6 a day in my in box. I bet if you actually e-mailed this person back they would get around to actually asking for money instead of the "items". If they ask for money in the form of a western union payment you know it's a big time scam.
Has anyone ever actually written back to her??
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PostSubject: Re: Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy   Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy Icon_minitimeWed Oct 27, 2010 8:22 am

Just to show you, here is a scam I received just yesterday. Can you see the similarities??
The sadness first, then the tragedy strikes , then the hope you will be a caring person and help??

Beloved Friend,


I am writing this mail to you with heavy tears In my eyes and great sorrow in my heart because my Doctor told me that I will die less than three months time. Based on this development I want to will money which my late husband fixed in a bank for the future. I meant to use the money to setup a foundation but my health will not let me do anything again. I am in search of a reliable person who will use the Money to build charity organization for the orphans and cancer research and the person will take 30% of the total sum. While 70% of the money will go to charity organization and helping the orphanage. I grew up as an Orphan here In Malaysia and i don't have anybody/family member to take care of my wealth. People I called my friend betrayed me and squandered what is left of my wealth , so I have no other choice than to do what I am doing now . I will provide you with all the information once you indicate your willingness and I ascertain that you are a good person.



Same dance...just a different song.
Be careful, soon this person will change her name completely and start over.
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PostSubject: Re: Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy   Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy Icon_minitimeWed Oct 27, 2010 8:24 am

I believe that when she posted on GG, Tracey (Tootles) sent her some pouches. Maybe I'm wrong about that.
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calamityannie wrote:
I am almost sure this person does not even have gliders! It may not even be a woman or not even in this country. In fact I would put good money on it!

Searching her email address, I found this girls facebook page. There, she writes that she'll have joeys available soon.
Also, searching on google, it looks as though she has listed multiple animals for sale recently.

I don't doubt that she has gliders, but what I see here is breeder, not rescue.
Also, keep in mind that this person is requesting products, not money. Not that that's any better, but..well, I do believe that she has gliders. She just wants free stuff for them.
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WintersSong wrote:
calamityannie wrote:
I am almost sure this person does not even have gliders! It may not even be a woman or not even in this country. In fact I would put good money on it!

Searching her email address, I found this girls facebook page. There, she writes that she'll have joeys available soon.
Also, searching on google, it looks as though she has listed multiple animals for sale recently.


Ha- I did the same- people just don't realize what an email address will tell about them.

She's located in Rensselaer, IN
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PostSubject: Re: Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy   Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy Icon_minitimeWed Oct 27, 2010 11:10 am

The problem with e-mails is that, in reality, they mean nothing. I can get a hundred different free ones myself and even set them up with fake names.
I know because I have a hotmail e-mail set up under a fake name that I used when I was being stalked. Same with facebook. I can make a completly fake facebook page. I know a person who has one that he uses to catch crooks because he is a "bounty hunter/ repo man" that says he is this hot chick looking for..blah, blah, blah. He catches criminals all the time with it.

The e-mails may SAY she is looking for items but I bet if you got into any kind of personal e-mailing with her it would turn to wanting cash dollars in a heartbeat

Also, I found another posting from her, with a different e-mail than the one above from Davie looking to ADOPT gliders for her 12 and 17 year old daughters ( from Aug of this year)..??? So if she is a "breeder" she is also breeding rescues.

At any rate, whatever and WHOever she is, she is definately a nasty scammer all around
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PostSubject: Re: Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy   Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy Icon_minitimeWed Oct 27, 2010 2:47 pm

I actually did write her back and it was this:

I would like to inform you that your 'begging for donations scam' is circulating throughout the entire glider community. Your information is being researched and stored in multiple glider community venues and rescue organizations, along with a compilation of your various scam tactics.  

Now on her FB page, she says each of her joeys go home with a bonding pouch and what not. So I'm inclined to think that she does indeed, want free stuff. Also she shows a couple photos of a man with gliders so she may be a he...who knows?

Yes, I do think Tracy sent her pouches. She probably got a good taste of how semi easy it is to get stuff now. No offense to Tracy, she was only being nice.

Anyways, she did not respond to my email back to her.
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WOW... I'm a day late and a dollar short on warning you guys about this chic! Tami just got contacted the other day by this lady and wanted a female Leu "pet only" and when Tami wanted to talk about her neutered males..the woman said no way. In the email she said she was a widow but when she spoke to Tami on the phone, she said it was her husband who didn't want males because of the smell. She then promised not to breed the female. In one email this woman had 3 female gliders and one just died...in her phone conversation, she had 6 females and one had just died. Tami saught her out on facebook and she found pics of joeys and statements that she would be having joeys for sale soon. All of this after she told Tami she never bred and had no intentions of breeding!

Then when Tami called her bluff...this woman asked Tami for a breeding pair and told her to ask all her friends if they had any breeding pairs for sale!

After hearing this, the name sounded familiar so I looked thru all of my emails and found that I SENT HER SOME CHARITY ITEMS myself!!!!!! She told me she was a widow with 3 small children and she was on disability and could not work and had no money and her gliders were her life! So I fell for it and gave her a great discount on some stuff.

Shame on ME!!!!!!
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Dawn must have at least 2 gliders. She just bought and paid for two of my glider safe purses. she wanted a deal because she claims to be on SSI but I told her my prices are rock bottom and i could not go any lower on them.
I do have name address and email if you want it. She is in IN
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Spoonfulofsugars wrote:
In one email this woman had 3 female gliders and one just died...in her phone conversation, she had 6 females and one had just died.

When Dawn registered here on TSS and began posting, she stated she had 8 gliders and one that just died.
https://thesweetspot.forumotion.net/off-topic-everyday-life-big-whiney-posts-go-here-f35/new-to-group-t1026.htm
When she contacted Catherine earlier to ask for free items, she states that she is a rescue and
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I currently have Seven(7) cages of Gliders. 5 of which are paralyzed due to lack of vitamins and proper diet.

She either keeps acquiring gliders and has one die every other week,or she is a complete liar. I call Dawn Hall/Jacobs a.k.a. Fuzzbuttzmom / fuzzbuttzmommy 160977

So, it appears that she does not know how to tell the truth and will make up any sob story (widow, on SSI, broken drier, paralyzed gliders, and on and on) to convince others to give her free or deeply discounted items.

Dawn's screen name here on TSS is Fuzzbuttzmom. I have added that name to the original thread title.

(P.S. - If any of you ARE giving free items to paralyzed gliders, well I know a very cute one ..........) lol!
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If this is an appropriate place to say this, I apologize, but we read about scams all the time. I know that we all feel sorry when we hear about someone's hard times, but it seems like these stories usually turn out to be lies. These lies hurt everyone. Those who generously give feel taken advantage of and will often refuse to give again. Those who really do need help are out of options due to the scammers who have taken advantage so often. Although it's hard to hear stories of animals in need, take a minute to think it through before donating. There are several established rescues and organizations who have taken the time to legally form their orgainzation, who can benefit from donations. Our rescues are constantly taking in animals and can use supplies or money for vet bills. While those of us who are set up as rescue homes are equipped to provide this care, help is always appreciated and allows us to splurge on a new toy or wheel for the gliders. SECARES and TGI are both 501(c)(3) non-profits who have several programs established that benefit gliders. If you donate to any legally established organziation, you don't have to worry about being taken advantage of and you have the knowledge that your gift is helping animals. Those individuals who post stories, like Dawn/Fuzzbuttmom, are able to apply for assistance from the 501(c)(3) non-profits. They would have to go through an application process which will weed out the scams. To me, this seems like a much safer situation for everyone. Unfortunately the more people like Dawn who get away with this sort of lie, the more who follow in her footsteps. Just my thoughts on the matter of scammers.
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Thats exactly how I felt when I realized I had been taken... because of what I do for a living (police detective) I do think I have become jaded when it comes to people in need just because of all the liars I see and deal with in my line of work...well I had that little voice telling me to beware and yet I "gave her the benefit of the doubt - FOR THE GLIDERS SAKES and it came right back to bite me in the ***!

I think that will be my next "deal" for my holiday specials... I will donate the equivalent of 10% of any order received and put the donation in their name, to a rescue of their choice (I will create a list to choose from so it stays legite) from now until Christmas!

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IMO anyone who has to continuously ask for help or who keeps posting they do not have money for this or that for the animal's and who can not provide adequately for them should not own animals.

Now there is a difference in someone who has an emergency vs chronic issues.
Then you need to figure out if this is temporary or a permanent situation.

Temporary I do not mind helping you out.
Permanent you need to help yourself and figure out what you can afford. Then make good choices for your pets.

Pets are a privilege today.

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BCChins wrote:
IMO anyone who has to continuously ask for help or who keeps posting they do not have money for this or that for the animal's and who can not provide adequately for them should not own animals.


Exactly. It's the continuous part that I mean. It's the people like this one who repeatedly take advantage of the generosity of the community who prevent those who truly do need help in an emergency situation. In my opinion, it's a doubly hurtful act: the donor's trust and generosity are broken and abused AND another glider and owner cannot receive assistance. It's horribly wrong.

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She was even been asking for FREE MONKEYS online. I can't stand the nerve of some people like this! http://www.internetlocalclassifieds.com/View.php?id=20101112045319fuzzbuttmom&category=&sub=Dogs

Side Note: Yes, I'm new also. I haven't properly introduced myself as of yet. I'm sorry if that offends anyone. I'm normally just a roamer on most all the sugar glider forums. I don't usually ask a whole lot of questions because most of them get answered by just scanning all the forums. So, I don't have a lot of posts on any forums. I frequent GC mostly, but have enjoyed all of them.
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Well...she just contacted me again and wants the same deal I gave her the first time 🇳🇴
I'm so frustrated but will be nice and tell her that I am on to her scam and if she wants more shirts and hoodies, she will have to pay full price like everyone else. :( it makes me feel bad to do it (even though I know she's lying) but it's not fair to everyone else!
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Well welcome to TSS, CoconutRumOJ. (add your name to your signature if you'd rather be called by that.) Thanks for the link. ;)
She obviously has psychological problems which I feel bad for, but lying and trying to manipulate animals and products out of people...that I do not feel bad for. In fact, I will be nice and not say what I reallly want to, here. I did let her know how I felt in my email back to her lying solicitation.

The more people that know about her, the better.
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