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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Tue May 25, 2010 11:01 am

Alicia I know when I have abscesses after they have been drained is the worse. Its like it just takes it out of you. Hopefully he will be feeling better in a few days.
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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Tue May 25, 2010 2:11 pm

Plus I am sure now that it is all opened and fresh it hurts like the dickens. I hope in another 24 hours he feels better.

Thank You Val....I thought it would be good to ask since we had the wound topic Saturday night. Nice to see when to use it and not to use it.
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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Tue May 25, 2010 2:45 pm

Poor Gannon, open wounds always look so scary on gliders. I think he turn out just fine and be handsome as ever. I am sorry you both are going through this. I really enjoy learning new information as well, you can never be to prepared for the unexpected.
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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Sat May 29, 2010 7:06 am

Gannon is doing much better. Hee is going stir crazy in his small cage and he loves me but I have a feeling he'd rater be hanging out with his family.
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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Sat May 29, 2010 3:58 pm

Thank Goodness!!! What treatment is healing it???
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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Mon May 31, 2010 11:55 pm

Cora, the solution I am cleaning the wound with is... Nolvasan.

Here he was last night. Still looking a bit droopy, but honestly a lot better. I am not talking about his wound, I am talking about his face :(. He did a few barky/cries last night so we got in the big boy tent. I may never get him back with his family after this, he has forgotten he is a glider.

While the wound still looks icky, it is so much better, very shallow and no more swelling underneath.

He is eating well and as of last night.. has hit the Superfood green juice.

Chris R. you lied to me. That stuff tastes like pooh (on a good day) but Gannon likes it straight and I did add it to the HPW last night.

So here are last night's pictures. The yellow stuff is not pus, or ooze. The wound is pretty clean. It's the liquid from his cleaning. Mixed withh his fur and all the others stuff I have had on him this week (Betadine) he is a mess. He needs a good sponge bath.





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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:18 am

He DOES look better! Still a very handsome boy. Give him kisses and yogies for me!

Looks like you could now try the QuickDerm. How is the tunneling? If it is closing, then the QuickDerm will speed the process up.

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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:45 am

Awwwwww his wound looks great!

I'm sure he just misses his family right now. Hopefully he will heal fast and be with them soon again.
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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:46 am

Val, if you look at his wound like a clock the tunnelling is about 3:00. I can see the back of it and it is almost flush with the rest of the wound. No drainage or anything. I wash him down and then use a qtip and/or a 4x4 and if anything it comes out a bit pink tinged, to other color, no ordor. So... in my judgement of human wounds, he is healing find. LOL.


He does cry for his family but they want to eat him. He won't be going back until there is not scab no nothing.

He has joeys due in the next few weeks so I'll just have to play it by ear.
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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:22 pm

Day 10, last day of antibiotics.

Sorry not great shots. Gannon is in the tent, after a long trip to Quincy and back, Gannon deserved some tent time.

So here he is a few minutes ago. And stay tuned for another post about Gannon. LOL



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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:28 am

Almost healed. Still has a tiny scab. Sorry it's blurry, he wouldn't hold still.


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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:50 am



Here she is.

Gannon is doing great, appears healed. I am just reluctant to put him back in with his family. How long do you guys suggest waiting from the time I feel and see no injury?

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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:09 am

You need to play that one by ear.. or eye. Just watch his family and see if they are paying attention to it. If so he has to wait. a little grooming I expect but they can not eat my boy.
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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:05 am

Maybe put them together in the tent with no place to hide so you can watch them and they can not hide and groom him. Do a few days of this and then see how they do in a pouch like Karins Petal pouch where you can leave it open and watch them???

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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:29 am

After Yokio's neck wound was healed, I faced the same decision. His reunion with his cagemate followed the lines of KB and Brenda's above advice. Now, he only has one cagemate, so it was easier to observe, but she smelled his neck once and that was it. I think that she was just so happy to have her friend back that she didn't even think about revisiting the wound area. Good luck.
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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:50 pm

Gannon is HOME.

I watched them for several hours yesterday, then left them alone and kept checking back in on them. Hours later still nothing out of the ordinary, so I bravely went to bed.


This morning there is something wrong with Gannon but NOT a wound.

He is completely bald from marking, rubbing and I think..... loving on his family.

Happy as a pig in pooh.

I am so relieved.

Thank you all for all the advice. Gannon thanks you too.
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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:52 pm

Well, not good.

Despite the happy little family I gave treats to today, something happened.

I go to give treats and from across the room I see a glider on the bottom of the cage, not moving, as I get closer I see it is only the front half a white glider.

I am immediately ill and confused. I've been so diligent about letting them see eachother almost everyday since this initial injury occured, eithor on me, in a pouch, or in the tent. I've let Gannon see, touch, smell and groom the babies since they were day one oop, and let the moms see Gannon with supervision, often the whole family togeter. There have been no issues with them as a group. Only when I let Gannon stay alone was there an issue, they would over grooom his wound when I turned my head. But no aggression, no snits, no snats, nothing but loving, rubbing, grooming, and playing, all 5 of them.

As I go closer I realize this white baby is Gannon's baby, not Gannon. It doesn't mater, I feel no relief.

I check the pouch with fear before I even try to remove what I have seen, there is blood on the outside of the pouch.

As I lift the pouch out I hear crabbing, I regonize Gannon's voice, I hear the girls. Gannon NEVER EVER crabs. I tried to open the pouch to calm them, offfer a treat and I see Gannon lunge at one of the girls, I see the other girl lunge back at Gannon, a fighting ball begins and I have to physically pull the 3 of them apart.

Gannon is not injured, the girls are not injured, Gannon's neck is white and fluffy and the remaining joey, Brother, is hiding in the corner at the bottom of the pouch.

I was with the family for hours last night, there wer no issues at all, after several hours of supervision both in the tent and in a pouch on my lap, I actually left them all along in their home cage, with all their stuff like it has always been. Then I checked on them every 30 minutes until 2am this moring. I checked them again at 5:45 am when I got up, and then again right before I left for work. They seemed to be back to the wonderful family they have always been, they all took treats from my hand, Gannon and one of the moms were still up, the other mom and the joeys were resting but she took a treat too.

Gannon was bald but uninjured, joeys were fat and sleepy.


I just took these pictures with Jacob the day before yesterday






So... I've pulled Gannon out of the cage, he is back in the super tent. Girls are crabby as heck, Brother is fine.

I will never try to put a family back together again as long as they have joeys, joeys in pouch, joeys out of pouch.

I am just so mixed with sadness, regret and anger, I can't even go down there to feed anyone dinner yet. I don't even want to walk into that room.
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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:34 pm

First my cremino joey, then Gannon's injury, now Bellamy half eaten. Gliders fighting, Kristi's glider pulled her joeys. The last few months have been the worst for me, never in 8 years total have I had this much loss.

I may have found my problem. BTW, Gannon's cage is above the Cremino's cage, which had been next to Kristy's cage, but I moved them to the other side of the room a month ago.

Gannon's/Buba's double stack cage is all by itself in that corner of the room, below a windo and by my self I store all my treats, extra pouches, cages stuff, bins, etc.

I think I found my problem.

Meet Kudjo.

He/she is who I met when I finally drug myself down to feed the gliders. BTW, on the way down I heard spatting and hissing and I thought... how much more can I take. My eyes first went to the tent where Gannon was pacing back and forth from one side to the other like a mad dog, the girls laying flat under their Stealth wheel.

I couldn't help myself, I said... Bad girls, bad. I looked to Gannon pacing and I said.... Bad Gannon, bad.


And then I looked up for some unknown reason.





Don't ask me how I had the calm to take a pictue, but I moved the camera so I could put the food down, it was already in my hand. 1 quick picture then I backed out of the room. ran upstairs and put my husband jeans on, no shoes and ran to the neighbors (no one is home with me tonight) and begged my 16 year old neighbor Dustin to come help me.


Ran in, got shoes on and then Dustin came with welding gloves and a tote bag.

I armed myself with a butterfly net and my camera,


Here is Dustin, sorry, I was shaking.




Here is Kudjo, he was realased in the alley behind my house. Dear God Please someone tell me there are not anymore down there.

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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:40 pm

O M G!!!!! How the heck did it get in???
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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:44 pm

Oh man! I hope you don't have more in the house.
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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:49 pm

OMG!!! How you stayed calm enough to take pics is beyond me. WOW!!! I don't even know what to say. Thank goodness you guys were able to catch him pretty quickly. I'm very sorry for your loss and so very grateful that Dustin was able to come to your side to help.

I don't blame you on the sleep thing. I don't know if I could either after finding one of those in my house.
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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:57 pm

Ok. I would have fainted. My first thought is...if he/she got in, he/she will remember how they got in and most likely attempt to do it again. Crap. You gotta do some investigating Alicia, not only for your own piece of mind, but, well, the obvious. Ya DON'T WANT NO STINKIN OPOSSUM IN your house! Oly crap. If I lived closer, I would come help you no doubt (with Jim).

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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:10 am

Lynsie, I can't remember exactly when, I am sure Steve will tell me becasue he is very PO'd, but a month or so ago when Steve and I were both at gone (me work, Steve with his dad) I called Erin and told her to clean the kitchen AND take the trash to the front curb because the next day was trash day.

I came home, no Erin, trash on the curb and the backdoor (which leads into my basement, which since I no longer have a cat... leads into the glider room, door open) was wide open, and had been open all day. My big trash cans sit near the back door and I have seen them back there from time to time but they don't mess with me and I don't get close enough to them to have a good look see. Anyhow, we figured the door was open about 8 hours, no one home. Erin got grounded because the AC ran all day long with it set at 68 (Erin was hot).

I have had told several people about the barking, I have had so much lately, and when I go down there, nothing. They stop and look at me like I am stupid, or hearing things.


Kristy's glider pulled joeys that appeared to be about 3 weeks ip. I hear more noises down there then ever before. My babies have all been so crabby and jumpy lately. The vet said Gannon's injury looked like a bit or a nail/the way it infected up so badly. The cremino died, nothing in the pouch, all Toni and I found was a tiny strip of fur in the drop tray.

Last night I heard fighting and I found the drop tray to Gannon's cage had slid out about in inch. I had been messing around down there but didn't remember leaving it part out. I told Leigh today on the phone that Gannon and Buba were staring eachother down and hissing and swatting at each other because the drop pan that sepeates the top cage from the bottom cage was out a bit and that thank god they didn't hve room to reach eachother or something bad would happen. I was talking to her until I drove up in my drive, came in, walked downstairs immediately and found Bellamy gone from her rib cage down and blood all over the cage and on the outside of the pouch, but nothing in the pouch. And Gannon and the girls fighting as soon as I opened the pouch to give them a treat. Yet Brother is fine.

I just had Jacob and Kailey down there with me last night, Jacob played down there by himself 2 nights ago and since Gannon has moved to the tent there have been several nights when I have left Jacob playing in the tent with Gannon by himself with only a small light on above the tent.

This could have been so much worse.
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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:57 am

OMG I am so glad you figured it out, none of it was making sense to me. I may not sleep tonight after that pic though! Your right it could have been so much worse! ((((HUGS))))
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PostSubject: Re: Gannon, neck wound   Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:03 am

Wow! That's really scary and lets just hope that this problem has now been solved.
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