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PostSubject: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:57 pm

Did anyone hear about something like it? I need help. This is my sugar glider Malu.
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PostSubject: Re: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:47 pm

If you think that your glider is having an issue with her eyes, you need to get to a vet. None of us can diagnose over the internet. What may look like blood or glaucoma might not actually be. Do you have photos you can share?

Are there any other symptoms that you are noticing?
Do you need help finding a vet in your area?

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PostSubject: Re: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:12 pm

I went to 2 different eye specalists for animals and 4 different vets. This issue is going on for about 3 to 4 weeks. It started in one eye and spread to the second eye. I have a great problem with my sugar glider named Malu. He is a boy.

2 weeks ago after night I found out that his eye is blueish. I took him to exotics vet that same morning. He gave me anti-inflammatory drops and metacam orally. Went to eye spec 3 days later. He said it is glaucoma and blood inside the eye. Eye was enlarged and had blood inside. There was no scratch to the eye, no ulcer. Doc did ink test. The eye decreased in size and blood almost totally disappeared. The cloudiness was still there (after 2 weeks). Went to eye doc. He was very happy with the results. He told me to stop the glaucoma drops and use only anti-inflammatory for one more week. After 2 days from this visit my sugar glider had blood in a previously healthy eye and an hour later blood the size increased in previously cured eye. I'm very worried. I went to a different eye specialst. He told me that is is probably inflammation or some systemic disease since it appeared in both eyes.

Help. Any info would be helpful since no one of the vets knows much about unusual conditions such as this one and especially in sugar gliders.
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PostSubject: Re: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:16 pm

Do you know any more experienced organization at least to get some infor. What can cause this? Because all the vets I went to have almost no experience with this animal. They are not as common in CT.
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PostSubject: Re: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:30 pm

Hi Jo just spoke to you on the phone. The lady named Val is something to beleive in here, but you found her here already so let me give you some numbers that your vet will have to consult with (not you but your vet)
Dr. Walsh 918-258-0040
Dr. Tristan 361-994-1145

I admire you for trying to find someone, anyone that can help you with your gliders eyes. I will be praying you find answers that will help you.
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PostSubject: Re: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:49 pm

Thank you a lot Cora. I have hope for my sweet Malu:)
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PostSubject: Re: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:13 pm

The questions I asked were to help determine what your next step should be. I'm glad that you have spoken with Cora and have some direction.

Again, are these the only symptoms? Are there any other symptoms that do not include the eyes?

By CT do you mean Connecticut? If so, our Associate, Brenda (BCChins) lives in CT and can probably give you some indication of great vets in your area.

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PostSubject: Re: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:31 pm

If you mean Connecticut then I use
Marlborough Bird and Animal Hospital
http://www.marlboroughvet.com/

I have not used these Vets but heard they are good.
South Wilton Veterinary Group
http://southwiltonvet.com/index.php

Kensington Bird and Animal Hospital
http://kbahonline.vetsuite.com/Templates/GridCritters.aspx

You can contact me here in a PM if you need to and I will try to help you.
Who did you go to in CT?

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PostSubject: Re: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:22 pm

BC, I completely forgot you live in CT, Awesome, it takes a whole community, but we get it done!
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PostSubject: Re: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:28 am

Nerrik which Vet do you use? You stated you have tried the ones I posted??

You can call me if needed 860-508-4853 if I do not answer please leave a message and I will call you back.

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PostSubject: Re: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:46 am

Just putting information out there for others who might come along:

glaucoma is a condition where pressure builds up in the eye that may cause bleeding in the eye, blindness, halos in the vision and many other conditions.
I have asked, but am still not clear on if the bleeding Joanna talks about is this bleeding associated with glaucoma or some other condition.

Either way, often glaucoma is controlled with eye drops. I have a glider who has been living with it for almost a year now. We use eye drops when she starts to have issues. She may go 6 weeks without any trouble and then we get the clouding up, pressure stuff again, so we start the drops again. Other than this, she has no symptoms and lives a full, happy life.

I have heard of some having the eye removed due to glaucoma. I'm not familiar enough with their cases to know why that decision was reached. I only know what we have decided to do here.

Either way, with glaucoma, the loss of eye sight is the worry.

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PostSubject: Re: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:32 am

Any update?

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PostSubject: Re: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:32 pm

The glaucoma my sugar glider have is a secondary glaucoma. The blood was is the eye as a first symptom. The inflammation process of unknown cause caused bleeding into the eye and due to blood accumulation inside the eye ball, eye enlarged markedly. Pressure of the eye went from about 20 to 51. This is very painful condition as I was told by every doctor who I spoke with and who have seen my sugar glider. The same bleeding appeared in a second eye but fortunately was absorbed, so far it looks like this eye got better. I wish I could submit a photo it is really graphic. Every doc who saw Malu was saying that for sure he have lost his vision on this side and for sure it must be really painful for him and as a following I 've heard each an every time about eye removal procedure. So far I am using the drops for glaucoma, anti-inflammatory drops, oral anti-inflammatory meds antibiotics and pain killers, and Vit K . Malu' s eye so far did not improve but it is about 4 days . Previously it took 2 weeks before the eye decreased in size and absorbed a blood and it took only 1 day for symptoms to come back. I am waiting for blood results that may indicate what caused the bleeding into the both eye at the first place. The X-ray images did not indicate any abnormalities. In total Malu have lost about 10 to 12 g of weight. The improvement I see so fairs that he gets more excited about the food. He eats a bit more I think. I hope this time I could describe the whole situation more clearly. I hope that my case will help someone in the future.
Regarding a vet who I finally went to was Dr Sitinos the owner of South Wilton Veterinary Group. I was referred to him, but I don't know myself what to think. I took Malu for a blood work this morning and I took with me the referral list of vets who assign to a vet to vet consultation group, particularly Dr T Tristan and Dr B Walsh. I mentioned to my Dr that this is a group of vets that he could consult with since they have experience in treating sugar gliders and in performing the procedures and so on. He seemed touched by what I've said and said that he is experienced as well and don't need to talk to them. Whereas previously when I 've asked him about how often does he see sugar gliders he answered that every now and than. I am a PT myself and I know that consultation is a great opportunity. I don't understand people who think that are the smartest and know everything.That is just my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:34 pm

Thank you all for all the info and time you all dedicated to me. Thank you:)
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PostSubject: Re: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:57 am

I just picked up my baby - Malu this morning and I found out that bleeding have happened again into a good eye (Is full of bright red blood). Today we are suppose to have blood work results. Dr Sitinos who I just spoke with has no idea what can cause such a condition. Don't know what to do. I've just wrote yesterday that the eye seems to be fine.
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PostSubject: Re: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:18 am

Continue working with your vets. If no answers are found, you can explore removing the eye. Gliders generally do well with this procedure and can live just fine without their sight. It might be time to begin asking if he is better off continuing with all this testing or if it is better to just remove the worse eye and remove the issue. This is a conversation you would need to have with your vet.

You might talk with your vet about a DMSO delivery system. I'm not sure if that is available for eye drops (maybe the glaucoma ones are already a DMSO???) but it is one idea that you might run past your vet.

I'm very interested in the blood test results. Thanks for keeping us updated.

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PostSubject: Re: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:22 pm

Dear friends I can not say I have a good news about my sugar glider - Malu. All I know by now is that I know almost nothing. What have caused such a tremendous inflammation in such a small body? The X- ray pictures showed nothing and a blood work results showed something, which was known from very beginning - active process of inflammation - leukopenia (low White blood cells) anemia (low hematocrit - probably due to bleeding into the eye balls) and high levels of vit D3 (unexplained).

My vet and many vets I had opportunity to talk to said all the same, that there is great inflammation in his body. I give him meds and vit K. I don't know if he can see at all now, I knew before he have lost vision on his right side, but now I am not sure about the left side as well. I feel horrible. My vet is not giving up (I'm hoping that it is because he wants the best for me and my pet, and not just to see what will happend (experiment on us) and as a good business for him). I don't know that.

I have to say that best of all was Dr Bradley Walsh. He found a time for me and my problem with no profit for him at all (I think he spoke with me about 2 -3 times ) and gave me his email address so I could send him a blood work. I am so happy that there are people like him.
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PostSubject: Re: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:39 pm

Well, you will find that we love Dr. Walsh around here as well. I'm very lucky to have him as my vet and friend.

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PostSubject: Re: EYES PROBLEM - Blood in eye balls & glaucoma in the right   Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:23 am

Agreed. Dr. Walsh is wonderful. I sure hope you can find out what is causing this and get it resolved soon.
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